Skate Zone Results

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Re: Skate Zone Results

Postby geraptis » Apr 27th, '10, 07:51

Rave wrote:I think A bigger problem is that most people don't have the initiative to actually say something or they won't because they will get shot down. An open forum is a good place to see those who actually want to see progress in the game. I think most that do are already here sadly


That could be an easy fix. No more captain's votes on rules, you don't like a rule, you have to talk about and vote on it here.
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Re: Skate Zone Results

Postby rave » Apr 27th, '10, 09:59

Thats a fine Idea George, But what i'm not in favor of is giving every person equal say. It was nice when there was a rules committee, although it flaked out rather quickly with california and Colorado disappearing right after. That kind of regulatory system for the rules I'd be fine with. A Set of selected and certain individuals that vote and decide the rules. Players must come to the forums to voice their concern. No last minute Captain Meeting Shananigans.
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Re: Skate Zone Results

Postby geraptis » Apr 27th, '10, 10:29

That's fine by me, how do we decide who gets voting power?
In the olden days, to vote in the captains meeting your team had to attend the previous two tournaments, your team was defined as three players from the previous tournament.
I believe you could also vote if you attended at least half of the regionals.

Obviously the most active teams should be able to decide how they want to play. However, I made sure when Jester's had 6 traveling teams, and Pittsburgh sent only 1 or 2 teams, that we didn't abuse our majority and dictate a new set of rules. I even made it so that whatever changes we made were not official National rules until they were adopted in the captain's meeting during Nats.

At this point for Nationals this year, I think we would be lucky to get Florida to come, maybe a few players from Michigan and Colorado, and you never know about NY.

And I don't know what's going on with the teams from Pitt. We would need to get a list of the teams with their players over the season, and see who would qualify to vote, then get them on here. I also don't know the state of the rules with Pitt players. We had so many problems in Pittsburgh and were told about all these problems players were having with rules not being called, then we get to SkateZone and everyone is fine going back to the old rules.

My primary concern is if the rules change too quickly, I'm going to lose my players and no longer have a team. That does not mean I think I should have more voting power than other players, just that we should put limits on what and how many things can change in a time period. I don't think anyone should be able to call a vote at any time, and there needs to be a quorum for a vote to count.

In the past we also gave owners/operators a voting option.
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Re: Skate Zone Results

Postby rave » Apr 27th, '10, 11:50

I would think elected officials from active stores. Large turns outs can get more representatives but nothing that outweighs the voting power to tip it in on direction. Newer/fewer Stores get one.

Just an example of a Committee Id prefer:
Jester's: George + Kosh
Pittsburgh: Joe + Fred
XLS: Dominator
Florida: Jeff
Holland: Joe Kelly

These individuals are representatives of their stores and for the most part are active members. Pitt and Jesters get more voting power as they have kept the scene alive and continue to field teams.

Decisions made based on a Group like this wont be called into question. But Everyone would have to come into an agreement that what this group agrees upon is what we play. Players then field complaints or suggestions to their store leaders and it is brought to the general ruling committee. The forums are a perfect place to do this. I know this already occurs for armageddon on Ricky's Secret Forums, so it works.
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Re: Skate Zone Results

Postby swamp fox » Apr 27th, '10, 15:15

Methinks this could work. ^^^^

That is if we can get it going actively and with the reps from Fl. and Mich.
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